Felix Nulkia
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Post by Felix Nulkia on Apr 23, 2022 18:28:12 GMT
The LKE hereby announces termination of the Treaty of Argyll with United Kingdom based on the combination of two grounds:
Firstly, on 27 March, I contacted United Kingdom to request that they deny any citizenship application from Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand. This followed Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand's seizure of Grand Abbeyverne Republic, a territory of the LKE Empire and a region which she had previously held as an LKE military officer, and Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand moving a nation into UK. UK denied my request. A couple of hours after the LKE's approach to UK, Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand lodged an application for UK citizenship, noting on her application that she had been "declared an enemy of the state in LKE for seizing colonies". This application was granted half an hour later. Citizenship was not just extended by UK to Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand, but done so with great haste in the period of the immediate aftermath of the seizure of an LKE territory and after we requested otherwise.
From Astrid Weisberg-Talleyrand's subsequent statements, the LKE has validated our concern (initially based on the timing of her citizenship application, directly after our request) that she gained knowledge from within UK's government that the LKE requested that any application from her be denied. This constitutes a breach of Article 5, Section 1 of the Treaty of Argyll between the LKE and UK, whereby "A Signatory may not pass on any information that concerns the military or security of the other Signatory to any party, unless the Signatory that the information concerns gives its consent." UK is in breach of this treaty obligation.
Secondly, on 2 April, I granted a citizenship application submitted by Hon. Mary Spencer (also known as Elizabeth Somerset). I took her application to be in good faith, on the assumption that she wished to contribute productively. On 15 April, using the puppet nation of Moghedien (which had no prior posts on the NS forums and which they did not identify as them in the signature or anywhere else), Hon. Mary Spencer posted a copy of my speech from part of the LKE forums closed to unmasked users, announcing planned constitutional reforms, in the NationStates Gameplay forum, under the heading "Felix Wants To Diminish Democracy" and as part of a thread entitled "Why I Left the LKE and Why You Should Condemn Them". In light of this hostile action, Hon. Mary Spencer was banished from the LKE on 17 April. Hon. Mary Spencer is today the Deputy Prime Minister of UK.
In view of the above two grounds taken together, the LKE no longer has any trust in UK as an ally. The LKE invokes Article 12 of the Treaty of Argyll. This allows either party to terminate diplomatic relations with the other and nullify the treaty and all agreements therein. The LKE ends our treaty and all diplomatic relations with UK.
Felix Nulkia, Emperor of The Land of Kings and Emperors
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Akillian Talleyrand
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Post by Akillian Talleyrand on Apr 23, 2022 19:18:58 GMT
I am probably the NSUKer with the greatest ties to the LKE. It was my first region when I joined NS in 2013 and I continued actively serving until 2020, including roles such as Prime Minister, Crown Prince and head of the Judiciary. If it was not for my lack of availability for the role, I would have served as Emperor of the LKE at one point.
Within NSUK, I have tried to develop relations between both regions for mutual benefit. We have enjoyed good relations previously in cultural and military affairs at various points.
Today’s statement is a sad day. But quite simply, NSUK cannot and should not be pressured into making decisions on matters such of granting citizenship, especially when our citizenship laws do not permit it. If the LKE cannot accept NSUK refusing to bend to its will, so be it. The end of a relationship which has on more than one occasion sought to diminish NSUK in the face of our own independence and resolve is not of much consequence for us. But be clear, it is the LKE leadership that has caused that.
After experiencing the tensions of dual citizenship myself, I am not surprised by today’s statement. Regardless of the end of this relationship, NSUK will continue to prosper activity wise and with meaningful foreign relationships.
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Owen Stewart
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Post by Owen Stewart on Apr 23, 2022 19:19:20 GMT
While it is unfortunate that it has come to this, no region can nor should attempt to force us to reject the citizenship of someone because of IC disagreements, and therefore, I support all action taken by our Government.
On the issue of "great haste" this was just a competent and quick admin team that want to accept all citizenship applications as quickly as possible so people aren't just hanging around, I dont see how you can complain about our admins doing their work in a timely manner, especially if they are online when the application is posted.
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HM King George IX
The Sovereign
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world."
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Post by HM King George IX on Apr 23, 2022 20:02:58 GMT
I am a big proponent of the United Kingdom having an outward looking cooperative mindset with international policy. But this cannot come at a cost of our sovereignty nor our values.
NSUK should be open to every single person in NationStates. A home to any person that wants to call this home and contribute to our community. It is not our job to judge and exclude people based on their history and relations in other regions. Nor should we judge anyone based on the word of a third party. Our opinions should be informed instead on our dealings with that person and our own experiences. No region should try to pressure us to see things any differently. NSUK is a kind and welcoming community to all.
As for the second point, it seems to me that all that’s happened their is that someone has exercised innocent free speech with maybe a dash of whistleblowing and that is no crime here in this region. If anything I think we as a society embrace it. No citizen should ever be punished for exercising free speech, unless it falls under crimes against the person. Especially not for exercising it against a Government or other organisation that holds power over others.
It is unfortunate that it has come to this, but if this is the reaction of a governing body after its citizens disagree with it and decide to seek a better life elsewhere, then I think we are just as happy to end this agreement as the other party to it is.
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DarchAngel
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Nobody knows what's inside me...
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Post by DarchAngel on Apr 23, 2022 20:27:21 GMT
1. From my experience, NSUK always grants citizenship in a rather quick fashion, mine was granted in 2 minutes.
2. Do you have any proof of your accusation of a breach? Or just more LKE posturing.
3. If you can't handle your leadership being questioned or any speech you made being made fully public, you're not fit to lead anything.
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Rose Weisberg-Talleyrand
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Post by Rose Weisberg-Talleyrand on Apr 23, 2022 21:00:28 GMT
Wow Felix, I'm hurt, I'm not even mentioned?
In all seriousness tho, my first real region in NS was LKE, and I'm saddened to see them hound us for leaving, even if it was at the end of an argument with you. I really wish that you could let this end, as so many of us already have, and just let us continue on with our NS life. I worked hard for LKE, and I even worked hard to come back after getting roped into a different splintering on accident. It's a shame to see the LKE where it is now, compared to this time last year.
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Cameron M. Romefeller
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Post by Cameron M. Romefeller on Apr 23, 2022 21:13:31 GMT
This is a classical attempt to shame and bully a region into following the will of the hard and fast foreign relations of the Imperialist regions of NS. As I've said elsewhere, thousands of times before, your foreign relation rejection barely hinders the region. At best, it is a protest, and at worst it is a tantrum.
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Vig Somerset
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Post by Vig Somerset on Apr 23, 2022 21:23:26 GMT
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I will freely admit that I am not well versed in the history of the relationship between NSUK and LKE, but I join the rest of my colleagues in reaffirming our commitment to the sovereignty of this great region and standing with our friends and neighbors Astrid, Rose, and Josi.
I also confess myself somewhat glad that we will no longer be maintaining relations with a region that appears to be backsliding into a morass of authoritarianism, despotism, and oligarchy. I am confident that our ties with other regions that share our values of respect for democracy and respect for constitutional limitations on the power of the government will continue to flourish well into the future.
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Alistair Brandon
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Post by Alistair Brandon on Apr 23, 2022 22:06:57 GMT
Tommen as a pfp is a perfect representation of your judgement as a leader. Got a Cersei whispering in your ears?
And the family he represents is a perfect representation of your disrespect for the legal sovereignty of your neighbors.
Case in point, you're no better than a Lannister. LKE is starting to act like King's Landing from Season 5. Shame, shame, shame.
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Sir Aaron Reynolds-Bauheim
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God Save the King!
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Post by Sir Aaron Reynolds-Bauheim on Apr 23, 2022 22:43:43 GMT
*simply stares and throws a tomato at the muppet*
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Alexis-Ka Sherwood
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Post by Alexis-Ka Sherwood on Apr 23, 2022 22:46:15 GMT
The original statement was posted in 10 Downing Street and is copied here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2022 0:26:04 GMT
You know, I had told myself that I was going to keep out of this thread. However, I felt that there needed to be a response against what LKE and their Emperor believes to be truth. There seems to be some assumption that I went to LKE to be underhanded or to harm it. That was not my purpose there at all. If His Supreme Majesty remembers, I used to be a Citizen of LKE for a long while, at one point serving as a Member of the Estates Common and as Interior Minister. So, rejoining LKE when they had experienced some hardship should not be a concept hard to understand. I had applied my application as Elizabeth Somerset and shortly after changed my name to Mary Spencer, because I have a fondness for the Duke of Marlborough. The profile picture I had there was the exact same that I had in NSUK and EoGB at the time, as well as on the Discord. My Discord handle was Josi#9711, and my forum username was also Josi. These are all indications that I did not care to hide my identity. I have been known but a multitude of names, nations, aliases, and identities in NationStates. I tried my best to put as many as I remembered in my application, if I remember correctly. If I had really wanted to be a sleeper agent in LKE, I would have done so many different things, but that was not my intention. I came back to help LKE, despite those close to me advising me not to.
I felt that Valfor's words, in his NSGP thread, had a ring of truth. From the very start in LKE, I made my intentions clear that I intended to help. I posted calling for new elections, I helped found a new political party, proposed a reorganization of the Constitution, and ran for the Estates Common. I had made it clear to everyone in my party that I wanted to help reform LKE so that it would have a fighting chance. It is my strong belief that just because something is tradition does not make it worthy. And that was the modus operandi of my work there. It was not too long after that that I had a conversation with Nulkia about what I would like to see changed. Not two (2) hours later, I was declared an Enemy of the State and banned from LKE.
Yes, I have gone by Moghedien and still do. She is one of my favorite characters in The Wheel of Time. And while she was an antagonist in that book series, I was not in concern to LKE. I relate to Moghedien because she is always afraid. Loathe I am to admit it, I am always afraid, I always worry. I cannot help it and that is why I like Moghedien, I relate to her.
You might see my various names, avatars, aliases, and identities as some sort of proof that I was a spy. That's not true. The names, the faces, they are a symptom of a transgender woman trying to find her way. I change my names and faces somewhat frequently because, most of the time, they do not always feel right. In the sense that my dysphoria is weird. It pains me to that I do not look like the people I used in NationStates and in my online presence.
I do not speak as Deputy Prime Minister or a Lady of Parliament. I speak as a private citizen. Felix Nulkia you have burned a bridge and isn't the first one you have burned since you have acceded the Throne. It is truly impressive. You may call yourself Emperor, you may clothe yourself in styles and titles, and demand that your right is unquestionable, but those are not what makes an Emperor, a Sovereign, a King. It is how you hold yourself, how you treat others, how you balance what is best for the Realm, is what makes a Crown worth bearing.
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Alexis-Ka Sherwood
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Post by Alexis-Ka Sherwood on Apr 25, 2022 11:40:02 GMT
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